"Progressive"
Thanks to BenSix (in the comments to the last post) for spotting the following exchange:
So NickCohen2 and D2 (he pronounces it 'D squared' so sadly we can't refer to them as the '"2" brothers' from now on) are of 1 mind on the matter of "progressive". Or perhaps not. Aren't progressive values important any more?
smithsky1979
@nickcohen2 Griffin could claim that he is "progressive". It's one of those terms that sounds like it should mean something. But doesn't
nickcohen2
@smithsky1979 It's fucking ridiculous, meaningless gooble-de-gook for smug, shallow, fashion following, mindless gits
So NickCohen2 and D2 (he pronounces it 'D squared' so sadly we can't refer to them as the '"2" brothers' from now on) are of 1 mind on the matter of "progressive". Or perhaps not. Aren't progressive values important any more?
posted by Chardonnay Chap at 6/04/2010 02:52:00 PM
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Do people still say "gits"? I tend to think of it as an Eighties term. I wonder if Ben Elton, rather than Trotksyism, might have been the leading political influence of the younger Nick Cohen.
'progressive' - unspeak? (can't find a good link to see if it's covered)
[redpesto]
I was not really politically aware when the Euston Manifesto came out. I'm sure people did a good fisking back then, but reading bits of it again just now, I am amazed at the doublethink:
We decline to make excuses for, to indulgently "understand", reactionary regimes and movements for which democracy is a hated enemy
and:
For we embrace also the values of free enquiry, open dialogue and creative doubt, of care in judgement and a sense of the intractabilities of the world. We stand against all claims to a total — unquestionable or unquestioning — truth.
Free enquiry . . . so long as you don't try and explain people we don't like.
But dsquared didn't say the word progressive was meaningless, he said that progressives were dangerous (amongst other things).
But if by "of one mind" you mean "of one emotion", then yes, apparently.
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