A brave stance against moral relativism
We can't abandon Afghanistan.
Our soldiers have shed enough blood: it is time to come home from Helmand.
Lest comment is free delete what is the best comment so far, I'll copy and paste it below:
In a perfect world, that would the number one result in every search engine for Denis MacShane.
Our soldiers have shed enough blood: it is time to come home from Helmand.
Lest comment is free delete what is the best comment so far, I'll copy and paste it below:
OUR TROOPS HAVE SHED ENOUGH BLOOD ? YOU SEETHING HYPOCRITE MUCH OF THEIR SPILT BLOOD IS DOWN TO YOUR PARTY AND ITS COMPLETE LACK OF INTEREST IN THE ARMED FORCES ESPECIALLY THAT INTROVERTED , SHORT TEMPERED , SELF SERVING MORON BROWN WHO STRIPPED THE DEFENCE BUDGET FOR HIS OWN pointless PET PROJECTS AND TO GET AT BLAIR . These deaths and those maimed are on your hands and your so called party who were to busy filling in expenses sheets remember it was moonlighting servicemen paying for equipment who lead to the uncovering of this enormous underhand fiddle .
WHAT BLOODY PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON? NUFTING TO DO WITH ME GUV ? THERE ONLY WORKING CLASS NOT IMMIGRANTS WHO MIGHT VOTE FOR US? I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT YOU AND THOSE LIKE YOU SUFFER IN SOME WAY ON A PERSONAL LEVEL LIKE THE FAMILIES OF THESE SERVICEMEN HAVE . YOUR EX-LEADERS WILL AND HAVE GONE ON TO MAKE LOTS OF MONEY UNLIKE OUR SERVICE PERSONEL .
The only saving grace is that we still have such people in our armed forces unlike the political systerm which throws up scum like you oh and I am working class unlike you and your colleagues we didnt vote for you notice that? you got your arses kicked !
In a perfect world, that would the number one result in every search engine for Denis MacShane.
posted by Chardonnay Chap at 5/30/2010 01:21:00 PM
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"Denis, with this article you're in danger of making a bit if a tw*t of yourself"
sums it up better
Oh no, he's been doing that for ages.
The real disgrace here is that this article does *not* appear in my carefully crafted Denis MacShane Google Alert search. What is the point of setting up a search to alert you to every outpouring of Britain's most ludicrous politician if you get scooped on things like this?
Kill the fatted calf, the prodigal arsehole has returned ...
'NuLab betrayed our fighting patriot Tommies to coddle immigrants.' In capitals. That's a praiseworthy comment? In EDL land perhaps.
Marc Mulholland
I was going to say, you wouldn't really want to get into conversation with the commentors down the pub.
Marc, fair point. I don't agree with the 'to coddle immigrants' bit either. But the rest, well it strikes me as authentic working class anger. (What Nick Cohen talks about.) People when angry don't necessarily express themselves as well as they might. It's understandable that sections of the working class feel shat upon, because they have.
But, yeah, an error of taste on my part. I should have stuck with just the two links, which was my original idea. Bloody MacShane didn't even acknowledge that he'd changed his mind (which would be reasonable; it's what I expect of intelligent people), and he passed over any arguments for staying (such as the Taliban are genuinely nasty, and we still have to catch bin Laden). I feel like writing pure bile IN CAPS when I happen across his smug cant too.
Denis McShane's point that because of the melting Artic we no longer 'need' Afghanistan to give point to Nato was a bit odd, too.
Marc Mulholland.
The "immigrants" bit is dodgy. So is the "British Army is undersupplied" bit - that's a complete Tory-generated urban myth, based on assuming that every wartime logistical fuck-up (and every new toy the generals would like to have but can't) is because the evil, effete, soldier-hating bastards in NuLabour want to see Our Brave Boys slaughtered.
We've done plenty for the armed forces. The only mistake we made was sending them to Iraq.
The comment - "The only saving grace is that we still have such people in our armed forces unlike the political systerm which throws up scum like you" - is pretty much undistilled ideological militarism, of course. Bernhardi would be proud.
Marc Mulholland.
This got said in a post on yrar last month, discussing Aaro:
the irritating trope of believing that the public's disdain for politicians is rooted in some weird psychopathology, rather than accurate assessment of their delivery
I tend to think comments like those quoted back Aaro up, rather than refute him, and, as I've said more than once, I share his suspicion that a lot of what is said about politicians belongs to the saloon bar. What I don't share is his trust of the political class, or that part of it with which he identifies: I think we need to be suspicious of them, sometimes very suspicisous, but I also think we need to be suspicious of public opinion. Sometimes very suspicious.
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