The Truth, the Whole Truth in Fewer than 140 Characters
posted by Chardonnay Chap at 3/29/2010 06:01:00 PM
Monday, March 29, 2010
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19 Comments:
I don't get it...
Would this help? Or this? Or this?
Do be fair to Nick I've never heard of Claudia Winkelman eiter. In fact I wasn't even aware film XX was still going.
@Chardonnay Chap:
Not really, must be a British thing...
Éxplained jokes are never funny, but the original Twitter quote refers to that apocryptical exchange between a lawyer and a judge:
"yaddayaddaa Beatkes yadda"
"Beatles?"
"I'm led to believe they're a popular beat combo, m'lud"
Seemed to be v. popular in Private Eye as a shorthand for how out of touch judges are supposed to be with modern life and culture.
But Claudia Winkleman on Film 2010? Well, I guess after Ross everything is an improvement...
Claudia Winklman is smart and very funny. Ross wasn't awful at the beginning -- a huge improvement on B.Norman, with a genuine then-rare interest in cult films -- but he went on too long. The judge joke is beginning to bite -- not to say devour -- the arses of a whole generation. Of course some say keeping up is the sillier sin.
Judge joke: see also the (apochyphal?) 'Who is Gazza?'
[redpesto]
The Gazza one wasn't apocryphal unfortunately - Sir Jeremiah Harman, one of the least popular High Court jduges of recent years, said it, although in context it very much looks like he was showing off rather than genuinely ignorant.
Off topic, but I came across this yesterday and I wondered if this is the sort of liberal dinner party Nick has been subjected to?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x44-YXrqPZI
Of course the real(ish) cases -- Gazza, disc jockey etc. -- seem less funny once you realise that the judge has the job of putting himself in the position of the possibly ignorant juror and asking dumb questions on their behalf.
in general this is true although in the specific case of Justice Harman, he was just acting the goat - I don't think he ever asked "who is Paul Gascoigne" as the answer would be "the plaintiff in this case m'lud" - IIRC what happened was that counsel explained that Gascoigne's nickname (and, allegedly, protected trademark) was "Gazza" and he did his clearly pre-prepared joke about La Gazza Ladra.
@B2 although in context it very much looks like he was showing off rather than genuinely ignorant.
I suspect Nick was genuinely ignorant, but there's probably an element of showing off as well. I saw it because Andrew Rawnsley (who may have a book out, but he's keeping it quiet) retweeted Bright. I don't follow either man.
I thought MB's reply was funny, in a Private Eye-ish way, and on topic for this blog. I also thought that it would divide our readers, as it has done, though I thought Justin would be the first to say that he'd never heard of her, Film 2010, or this regeneration thing.
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Actually I was going to say that I hadn't a clue what the post was about, but I thought nobody would believe me. (I'm still far from sure, not least because I don't really understand what Twitter is.)
Nick's on form at Standpump again. Apparently if you oppose imperialism then you're a paedophile.
Or as he spells it 'pedophillia' - and I thought that was a love of cycling.
http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/node/2896
Standpipe surely?
It's Winkleman, not Winkelman. She's the daughter of former Sunday Express editor Eve Pollard & went to private school and Cambridge (another example of 'My Struggle').
Despite the edukashun, she's mainly known for being an entertainment and reality TV presenter and has never previously shown an interest in fillum (except for slebs at premieres and the Oscars), but for all I know she may be a contributor to 'Cahiers du Cinema'.
The Film Programme is one of those shows that has gone downhill with time. It was quite serious when it started, then Barry Norman got the job and why not?....Used to be on at prime time and high profile.
Its first presenter,novelist Jacky Gillot topped herself
:-(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8ckhKTgKWA
Thanks for that. Wikipedia adds she lives on Connaught Square, which is comforting for Tony, at least.
I kind of want this to be one of those moments where you lose faith in the licence fee. But it's kind of that middle ground where you think the BBC perhaps should do it, and then perhaps shouldn't.
A little Aaro spot at the end of Today on R4 today. People don't strike much any more because of culture, apparently. We are all middle class now and we all hate troublemakers, or something along those lines. And I think he called Brendan Barber a wanker.
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