(incorporating "World of Decency")
posted by the management at 12/21/2009 08:17:00 AM
Funny you should mention that. Via Malky Muscular, I've learned already that a certain blog has come out against RATM. And they did so without mentioning said band's views on the former PM viz:Subsequently, de la Rocha added Tony Blair, the British Prime Minister who supported and facilitated George Bush's 2003 invasion of Iraq, to the list of those who ought to be tried and hanged at the Reading Festival on August 22, 2008.How unlike Jimmy Pursey the lyricist who inspired the Harry's Place's moniker (or at least the url now). See the second paragraph after this link. Praise the lord that Harry's Place is above self-importance!
Mein Gott! The captha is now 'loblog'. It's like Google's been reading my mail!
I urge AW readers to read Edmund Standing's thoughts on the matter.Not only was music better when he were a lad and that RATM, it's not music, it's just a noise, but also Rage shouldn't be at number one because Che Guevara was a bastard. Or something. BTW, it's worth noting that this episode graphically illustrates my Decents/Boring, middle-aged twats who think that revolutionaries were totally better in the seventies thesis.
I used to go to a forum where Edmund Standing was a member (well, he was before he stomped off in a huff over our refusal to harrass Truthers with prank phone calls in the name of the enlightenment, or something). His avatar was the CIA logo.That Globus song is just fucking awful in every way. I can easily picture a few Decent twats nodding along, temporarily forgetting that "Heaven help us in all our battles" is not a sentiment that Orwell or Voltaire would have enthused over.
@FW the problem with this thesis is that 'Killing In The Name Of' sounds an awful lot like a lot of other songs. The opening suggests 'Pretty Vacant' to me, and the riffs are clearly influenced by Jimmy Page. And their politics are an awful lot like those of the Clash. Better in the 70s? Actually pretty much the same. David T likes the Smiths, I'd be really surprised if he hadn't bought the odd Clash album in his time...
the thing about RATM was that they filled a very useful niche for people who thought (for political reasons) that they ought to like rap because hey, black people, but who didn't actually like rap because a) of the generally horrible politics of most actual rappers and b) it didn't sound like Crass. The fact that RATM have less to do with hip hop than my gran went unnoticed for several years.
Well Globus sings about suicide bombers being descendants of the 'dispossessed' This sounds dangerously like 'understanding' and a refusal to recognise unmotivated distilled evil for what it is. Normblog should really issue a polemic (hopefully in his hilarious jocular mode).
I am informed that the Indelicates have a London gig on New Year's Eve. I'd picket if I could do so without confirming their prejudices.
the list of those who ought to be tried and hanged at the Reading Festival on August 22, 2008.Do they usually have trials and hangings at the Reading Festival then?
the thing about RATM was that they filled a very useful niche for people who thought (for political reasons) that they ought to like rap because hey, black people, but who didn't actually like rap because a) of the generally horrible politics of most actual rappers and b) it didn't sound like Crass.And they bear a lot of responsibily for all those shouty, goatee beardy, big short-y nu-metal acts like Linkin Park and Blink 182.But even so, KITN is one of the better examples of the genre and used to be good fun at indie discos in my youth, and it raised half a smile when they got the no. 1 spot. The decent reaction certainly doesn't surprise me - it's just the same mindset that leads to knee-jerk condemnation of climate activists, G20 protesters etc.
What is "Rage Against The Machine"?
A popular music group from Liverpool, m'lud.
Sorry, I seem to be in a short story by Norman Spinrad. "All glory, all honour/Victory is upon us"? And that's before we get to the line about ruling for a thousand years. Would it be taking these people far too seriously to ask who's funding them?
Phil, you clearly were prepared to suffer longer than I was. As for 'a thousand years', I thought that was Queen.
@DaveWeeden - I'd agree that RATM have similarities to bands that the HPers probably enjoyed a lot in their youth, but I don't think that would preclude them absolutely hating RATM. To argue otherwise would be to suggest they have a consistent set of principles that they hold both allies and enemies to, and there is no evidence for this being the case.
Whoa nelly...I hoped that Agaroo would be the maddest, ugliest music video I'd ever have the misfortune to see. Seems that it can get worse. 'Decents/Boring, middle-aged twats who think that revolutionaries were totally better in the seventies'Oddly enough, I was already feeling battered today when I read that Roger Waters and Eric Clapton performed a benefit concert for The Countryside Alliance. It seems that a lot of 70s edgy figures have turned into old farts themselves. I don't know if Harry's Place gave Waters a grilling for supporting the CA whilst dissing Israel, but it seems to me they are essentially two sides of the same coin. The baby boomers who benefitted from the post-war settlement then burnt it down. Of course, given I was born in 1981, it's possible I'm being a hypocrite given that I didn't have to live through the industrial unrest in the 70s which finally killed off the settlement, but I do think it is something that haunts the more romantic 'leftists' of that generation.
There was some actual decent band wasn't there, interviewed on Little Atoms etc.?
Roger Waters very specifically admired and supported the postwar settlement in The Gunner's Dream
Roger Waters ... 70s edgy figureEh? Since when did churning out portentous concept albums become "edgy"?
Rage guitarist Tom Morello used to be an enthusiast for homicidal headbangers Sendero Luminoso, so I imagine that got up decent noses a bit. Got up my nose a bit, come to think of it.Plus he went on to form the truly appalling Audioslave.Good guitarist though.
Eh? Since when did churning out portentous concept albums become "edgy"?Money, get awayGet a good job with more payAnd your O.K.Money, it's a gasGrab that cash with both handsAnd make a stashNew car, caviar, four star daydreamThink I'll buy me a football teamMoney get backI'm all right JackKeep your hands off my stackMoney, it's a hitDon't give me thatDo goody good bullshitI'm in the hi-fidelityFirst class travelling setAnd I think I need a Lear jetMoney, it's a crimeShare it fairlyBut don't take a slice of my pieMoney, so they sayIs the root of all evilTodayBut if you ask for a riseIt's no surprise that they'reGiving none away
Money, get awayGet a good job with more payAnd your O.K.Which, in 1973, sounded about as edgy as 'My Lovely Horse' does now - but not nearly as funny.
Oddly enough, I was already feeling battered today when I read that Roger Waters and Eric Clapton performed a benefit concert for The Countryside Alliance. It seems that a lot of 70s edgy figures have turned into old farts themselves. Um, this would be Eric 'Keep Britain White' Clapton, then? (The discussion page on Wikipedia's article on the man makes for interesting reading.)
According to Wikipedia, Globus is the embodiment of a company that makes music for film trailers. And the drummer used to be in Feeder. How very lovely.Ah, the co-owner and composer is called Yoav Goren. Once again, BB, you show your true colours!
Is that Globus as in Menahem Golan's partner? God help us.
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