Friday, September 12, 2008

Nick on David Horowitz

Shorter Nick: The excellent and wise David Horowitz and his sidekick fail to notice all the respects in which Western liberals are perfidious. Apart from that David H is a really good egg whose courage, strength and indefatigability I salute (and, by the way, George Soros is a very bad man).

Update 3:15pm by Chardonnay Chap. Sorry for butting in, but I've just noticed something really priceless at the end of that article.

Nick Cohen is a columnist for the Observer and New Statesman.

Er, no he's not. Nick's Wikipedia entry (edited by ncohen2):

Until June 2007 he contributed regularly to the New Statesman, but departed and sued the magazine.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

What an outstanding first phrase ...

We are living through an age of liberal betrayal, ...

9/12/2008 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger ejh said...

Never mind that posting on Decent racism, how about one on Decent pomposity?

9/12/2008 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger Matthew said...

Frontpage magazine!! Suddendly the seals of Dacre seem rather unimportant.

9/12/2008 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quite. Writing for Frontpage Mag, accusing David Horowitz of being insufficiently critical of liberals.
And he accuses liberals of making common cause with those who stand for everything they should oppose.

9/12/2008 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A nice paragraph that links Radical Islam and Baathism as well. It could have been written by Cheney.

I particularly enjoyed:

Having seen liberal opinion here in England go berserk during the war, ...

These berserkers seem to be everywhere these days.

9/12/2008 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oxford dons and contributors to the New York Review of Books, who hated her for challenging the stereotypes of their reactionary multi-culturalism, and denigrated her in the most patronizing manner they could devise [...] the New York Review of Books, which demeaned her

He's still upset about being shown up by Timothy Garton Ash, isn't he? So much so that he's smearing him all over again.

the conflicts of our time are draining old labels of meaning

I'm really not convinced by this, especially since Nick praised anthony Browne for being... um... 'a liberal' recently.

David Horowitz and Ben Johnson [...] are patriots first and foremost

well maybe. but look at who Front Page voted as man of the year in 2007. Still can't work out what 'liberal' means, Nick?

the betrayal of "liberalism" by liberals and the left cries out for a book of its own. [...] Nick Cohen would eminently qualified to write the book, and we hope he does.

um - he already has. and it was shit.

9/12/2008 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick seems to be speaking up for extraordinary rendition and Gauntanamo here, as well as the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan (that's what Bush meant , with his " that countries had to choose whether they were going to help America or provide safe havens for terrorists" quip)

9/12/2008 12:21:00 PM  
Blogger BenSix said...

Christ, a couple of years ago even Nick thought that Horowitz was "unhinged".

It's really quite sick.

Never mind that posting on Decent racism, how about one on Decent pomposity?

Decency depends upon pomposity. When I had a more abstractly Decent attitude I was motivated by pomposity (and the resultant self-righteousness/snideness). I didn't need debate so much as a slap, because such a blithe attitude towards atrocities isn't just stupid, it's nauseating.

9/12/2008 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's still upset about being shown up by Timothy Garton Ash, isn't he?

Do you have a link for that? It sounds like fun.

9/12/2008 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick's piece is here

and discussed on AWIWOD here

the cohen position on Hirsi Ali sees to be: if you disagree with anything she says (even if you don't try to stop her saying it) then you are siding with the people who persecuted her earlier in life.

9/12/2008 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrew: the boys had it covered


9/12/2008 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never mind that posting on Decent racism, how about one on Decent pomposity?

could combine the two actually, as you don't usually have to venture far from Frontpage to find go iawn Kahanism.

9/12/2008 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frontpage hasn't always been so kind to Nick...

9/12/2008 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah memories...

This is all deeply sad. Cohen's rightwards drift seems to be accelerating by the column, not to mention the incoherent spite. Did this process really begin with that bloody Paul Berman book?

Von Pseud

9/12/2008 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn you Cheeseboard. I [i]knew[/i] someone would beat me to that one.

Von Pseud

9/12/2008 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From that link (which I found as well), this bears repeating:

Glazov: .... So why define yourself in a tradition which does have a lot to do with totalitarianism?

Cohen: I have never been a part of the totalitarian Left, and I'm not at all clear why you say that I have with such confidence. Suppose I were to assert that you were a part of the Nazi or Ku Klux Klan tradition, and you were to reply that you were no such thing. Suppose I were to insist that you were on the basis of no evidence whatsoever, to display a near total ignorance of all the democratic strands on the American Right and to keep repeating the same charge without substantiation or modification.
I suspect you would feel you were debating with a man who was ever so slightly unhinged and give up.
I give up.

Also, from Horowitz's Wikipedia entry:
According to attendee Alexander Cockburn, at that conference Horowitz recounted that his communist parents had not permitted him or his sister to watch Doris Day and Rock Hudson movies and instead had required them to watch celebratory films about the Soviet Union.

Does anyone else sense a bit of myth-making here? And it's not unlike Nick's own account of his parents. Of course, Horowitz may be telling the truth - parents do resemble their children in many traits - it's genetics - so it would be no surprise if generations of Horowitzes have been inflexible, humourless, ideology-driven prigs.

9/12/2008 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger ejh said...

Does anyone else sense a bit of myth-making here?

Well, there was always a bit of myth-making involved in the Day/Hudson movies...

9/12/2008 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So it's over. Nick is now officially on the bonkers-right, without any clauses or caveats. This is real far-right stuff here. Sad.

9/12/2008 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the betrayal of "liberalism" by liberals and the left cries out for a book of its own. [...] Nick Cohen would eminently qualified to write the book, and we hope he does.

Ouch, that's really got to hurt; for the objects of one's sycophancy to be utterly unaware of one's own recent work. Nick's like the little kid in the playground sucking up to the bullies who remain oblivious to his existence.

Geodesic Malarkey

9/12/2008 03:51:00 PM  
Blogger Alex said...

Doris Day and Rock Hudson? Does anyone else notice a certain subtext, absolutely hilarious in context, to this?

9/12/2008 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having seen liberal opinion here in England go berserk during the war, ...

Nicely spotted Gastro George. I believe the technical term is projection.

Indeed Cohen's entire trajectory whereby he accuses the liberal left of abandoning their core values losing the plot and hopping into bed with unsavoury right wing forces whilst complainng about the plight of those on £100,000 pa, defending the practice of extraordinary rendition, commending Anthouny Browne's position on immigration, complainging that Democrats dislike Sarah Palin because she represents ordinary decent people and writing laudatory reviews for Frontpage magazine either demonstrates a lack of self-knowledge unexampled since Eva Peron emerged onto a balcony in a designer dress, raised her arms so that the diamond bracelets could be heard to fall into position like railway cars in a siding and pronounced "We, the shirtless...".

Alternately, the whole thing is an elaborate situationist prank along the lines of the Social Text affair and the real Nick will re-emerge to point at and mock his new found admirers.

Sadly, I fear that the former is probably the case.

9/12/2008 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger BenSix said...

"It may not be a surprise that Ms Criscenzo could not see what was in front of her nose, but it is flabbergasting that George Soros, Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton and the New York Times shared her myopia."

Bollocks to Barack's "beserkers", Nick's a McCainiac through and through.

9/12/2008 05:14:00 PM  

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